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Bill. there have been a lot of concerns about the caps put on the defense bill because of spending limits. is that a concern to you or do you side step hose spending caps? >> well, the caps are a concern but we found a way to add to the overseas contingency account so that we in the house budget and the defense bill on the floor right now meet exactly the amount that the president last asked for. it's $611.9 billion. and we meet it exactly. so there are differences in how some of those funds get categorized, but the total, there is no difference. and so to have members of the president's party...

Discretionary spending is higher than $61 billion. >> i'm sorry, $611 billion. >> but it's a small part of the budget. it's one weak bit of the budget that people keep running over and over and over again. it's sort of like clean i don't go you are house by continually cleaning out your hall closet. eventually your house isn't getting any cleaner, you're just keeping yourself occupied. shumer is right, if you want to do something real about the budget, you put other things like defense and tax expends and entitlements on the table and have a discussion about them. the discussion is about a cam...