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Whatever the latest version was at the time. but look at the growth. 11.5% in 2013 and now 17.2% of the pcs that have been shipped are apple. it's an unbelievable growth story over the last two decades, guys. >> okay. so then what's the reason for this? are they easier to operate than the old -- >> no. i think that might be one of the reasons, but apple has always been easy to operate, it was something i could operate as a 5-year-old. take a look here, u.s. adults owning an iphone, this is based on my estimate, based on polling and some market reports, back in 2003 there was no iphone, by 2013...

Now back to the holiday countdown. thank you. hugs is one of my fondest memories because it was so bizarre. in 1966, wpix in new york started broadcasting a yule log on the tv so people who didn't have a fireplace could have a fireplace on their tv. it was a 17/2 loop that they just played over and over. it ran commercial free, which had the added benefit of having the station employees of wpix be able to go home and spend time with their family. you have to picture this in your head. you're changing channels and all of a sudden there's a fireplace in your living room. there's just a log burni...

Where is the code of elf? omerta. now back to the holiday countdown. thank you. hugs is one of my fondest memories because it was so bizarre. in 1966, wpix in new york started broadcasting a yule log on the tv so people who didn't have a fireplace could have a fireplace on their tv. it was a 17/2 loop that they just played over and over. it ran commercial free, which had the added benefit of having the station employees of wpix be able to go home and spend time with their family. you have to picture this in your head. you're changing channels and all of a sudden there's a fireplace in your liv...

Where is the code of elf? omerta. now back to the holiday countdown. thank you. hugs is one of my fondest memories because it was so bizarre. in 1966, wpix in new york started broadcasting a yule log on the tv so people who didn't have a fireplace could have a fireplace on their tv. it was a 17/2 loop that they just played over and over. it ran commercial free, which had the added benefit of having the station employees of wpix be able to go home and spend time with their family. you have to picture this in your head. you're changing channels and all of a sudden there's a fireplace in your liv...

Dr. gary lester, how many people actually finance them. he says half of them. couple of years ago could have financed three percent, thousand looking at 6 percent. people and we are going to talk to some in a couple of minutes. people are cutting back on certain things. that is why they are here for the free breakfast and beer. [laughter] i digress. >> brian: the 30-year fixed loan, september 2021 it was 2.86, now 6.02. we don't know how the banks are going to react. it is pain we have to endure because all the pandemic spending from supply chain to president's policies. in terms of nuts and b...