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Resistant to comparative information. so one fact that drives everything i think about health care is the we're now spending 17.2% of our income on health care and wealthy competitors spending 10.5 and they have longer life expectancies and lower infant mortality rates. that means if we had their systems, we'd save a trillion dollars a year and be healthier. a lot f people don't want to hear that. they just know i go to my doctor and i like him and somebody sends me a bill for my insurance. i think it's relative that we recovered 70% of the income we lost from the recession. germany's at 60. j...

>> i think that there is. >> a center left, rather. >> but there -- first -- i think the answer to creating it is to persuade 2/3 of the american people that you've got your facts straight first. that there is a factual basis for what we're trying to do here. for example, one of the things that has always frustrated me and hillary, we've talked about this a lot, is that americans historically have been aware, accurately, of the exceptional nature of our country. and it is in many ways still quite an exceptional place. but they have therefore been resistant to comparative information. so one fa...