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This massive increasee're thinking we're talking about here and it does appear to be under the sequester, just the mb is talking about, they want to do it in some halls of pentagon, they want to bust the sequester and go all the way up to $640 billion, even claw back money around $18 billion that they thought they'd left on the table at the end of the year negotiations last year. so, yes, this looks like a big number increase but we don't know what that top line is and until it does, i'm with robert and we should maybe some hyperventilating. that's sometimes all we have at 11:00 in the morning...

Comes out and says i want less money for police departments but they're pointing out, folks, that crime is down. help us understand, hance nichols, is there a good sense of how this money is going to be spent if you're trying to make the case to the average american taxpayer this is why we need it and here's what it's going to go for, what's the answer? >> readiness. in one word that's the answer from the pentagon. they feel they have serious readiness problems, not enough combat brigades. they're actually functional, ready to go out and hit the ground. following up on robert's points on the n...

Strength. saying we stand with our ally, having the two men appear on camera was a statement understood very well by north korea. >> what did you make of that, hans, and you're our pentagon guy, not our hill reporter. is there a bill in the works that will change funding? >> there is a bill. defense authorization act. and that will kind of start going through this fall -- this february, late in march, see a number there. numbers are higher. and the 640 billion range, that could be where the request comes in. i don't want to bore you too much with the back and forth on where we are with sequest...

The same troops and equipment without being able to do the proper maintenance and dwell times. you have weariness in the force. you haven't had the ability to rebuild. this is what donald trump will have to do. we're basically standing on the reagan build-up still today after the carter years. we'll need a trump build-up after the obama years to face a very dangerous world. that's what he is up to and it sounds like the chairman of the armed services committee in the house and senate are committed to spengd upwards of $100 billion more in the next budget. that's a stopgap. >> heather: $640 bil...

Federal government? i think the first job of the federal government is to defend the country. and most people don't realize that if you add all the military intelligence funding together it is still only 16% of the federal budget. so we need to make sure we spend that money smarter, absolutely. but there is no substitute for building ships, replacing old airplanes, putting more people in the army because that's the first job of the federal government and that's what we have to focus on. >> shannon: your estimate is we need $640 billion next year and congress needs to pass immediately funding f...