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Tier candidate former hud secretary for president obama really got out in front with his plan to decriminalize illegal crossings at the border. right? he was continuing that theme, blasting conservatives, blasting republicans for their criticism that he was pushing for open borders. here's what castro had to say on the sunday shows. listen. >> there is no way that we can call that open borders because we have 654 miles of fencing. we have thousands of personnel at the border. we have planes. we have helicopters. boats. security cameras. guns. that's by no stretch of the imagination open border...

Isn't this open borders. open borders is a right wing talking point. we have 654 miles of fencing. we have thousands of personnel on the border. we have planes. we have helicopters, boats, security cameras, guns, all over the border. we also have states like this state that we're in of texas that spend an extra $800 million on border security themselves, apart from the billions that the federal government spends. nobody's talking about open borders. what we're talking about is being able to maintain border security but to treat people with common sense and basic compassion instead of this crue...

Are you hopeful that republicans and democrats can get something done? >> i believe so. i believe we can get something done. my vision for how we fix our broken immigration system is different from this president's. i believe we can maintain border security. we have 654 miles of fence. we have thousands of people of the border, personnel of the border. my home state of texas ad thought that with another $800 million that he of border security. we have planes, boats, guns, security cameras. we can maintain a secure border. what we shouldn't do is treat people with utter cruelty. i believe we sh...

Everyone's heart, are you hopeful dc republicans and democrats can get together and get something done? >> i believe we can get something done. my vision for how we fix our broken immigration system is different from this president. i believe we can maintain border security. we have 654 miles of fence, thousands of people at the border, personnel at the border. my home state of texas add on to that with $800,000 in border security, we have planes, boats, guns, security cameras. we can maintain a secure border. what we shouldn't do is treat people with utter cruelty. we should use common sense ...

Still subject to the deportation process if that's the determination. also, open border is a right wing talking point. we have 654 miles of fencing. we have thousands of border personnel. we have planes. we have helicopters. we have boats. we have guns. we have security cameras. nobody has called for open borders. that's just a right wing talking point. >> and decriminalizing improper entry in your mind doesn't take away a tool to deal with the crisis at the border? >> not at all. this is the way we used to handle this up until about 2004 and at that time, there was still an immigration proces...