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Management, a canadian investment company. while the qatar investment authority acknowledged it has a small stake in the fund that brookfield invested in the building, its spokesman told nbc news in a statement that it had. it said it had no direct involvement in the 666 deal and the fund vested without our knowledge. >> what is the problem with the appearance of a conflict? >> we slid from appearances and optics that matter and we have to conduct ourselves at the highest level with the most moral and ethical conduct down to, well, if it's not breaking a law, it's fine. >> so who's doing anyth...

Business interests over national security interests and we can't tell the difference, neither can these other countries. and they will find that window and that gap, and they'll try to exploit it. >> in april 2017, the kushner company had talks with the former prime minister of qatar, the richest man in the country. but no agreement was reached. in an interview with a new york real estate publication, charlie kushner said the company also met with the qatar investment authority which invests money for the government of qatar, but no deal was struck there either. >> the whole issue of 666 fifth...

President, the kushner company was seeking financing to pay off the $1.2 billion mortgage. >> you've never been up here? >> i've never been up here. it's quite the view. >> we're starting to piece all of this together at the very top of 30 rock with bloomberg reporter caleb elby, who tracks the empire of donald trump and his entire family. >> that's the kushners' building right down there, shorter than some of the others. what's the deal with 666 fifth avenue? >> this was the kushner's family's big bet in 2007. they paid a record-setting $1.8 billion for this building. >> in 2008, things fell ...

With that? >> i don't think there's any question that the foreign business interests and questions around who he's talking to and why he's talking to them have entered into why there was a lack of recommendation for jared to get a clearance. and the fact that it was overridden, the fact that career professionals had that decision taken from them and were overridden, should concern all of us. >> but this isn't donald trump's business that's the conflict any longer, this is one of his advisers. it's kushner's family business. why is that a problem for the president? >> well, for me as a counteri...

Negotiations for 666 have anything to do with the anti-qatar stance? >> there are questions about 666 fifth avenue and the funding and the blockade and the timing. but that's about it. is it maybe going too far to make that connection, to make that jump? >> it's really important that we stick to the facts we know and not to engage in conjecture that actually draws conclusions that we don't have data to support. >> questions surrounding jared kushner's potential conflicts of interest have been an issue since he joined the administration. and was denied top secret security clearance. that decisi...