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there were more expensive. but it is possible for companies to have compensation for all the workers saying, either you will get made redundant or can we talk about flexibility within the job. what we're seeing on the platform is that flexibility is incredibly important to the over 50s. the women we surveyed, it is 16 times important than traditional status, and i think these companies have really wised up to the fact that the companies are ready to have a conversation about pay and hours. they want the job to fit around their life. the other thing that is really important is having ...

>> i'm laid off, currently laid off right now. >> reporter: how long have you been unemployed? >> when i came down here, i was in new york, i was doing forklift operations for teamster local 6768. >> you don't think the job training they're trying to do is not beneficial? >> these people don't help u you, they only got a job because i don't got a job. >> reporter: so you think it's a waste of your taxpayer dollars? >> first of all, they stick you in front of a computer. we need that one-on-one. i need someone that i can talk to. not a bunch of keys. it don't work. >> you're talking about a per...