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I think what he's saying is not i'm creating some new policy on nuclear arms, but i'm sending a signal to the chinese, to the russians, the iranians, to the north koreans, we're not going to fall behind in a nuclear arms race if there's going to be one. there was this rap in the campaign, don't take him too literally. i think there's still an admonition out there, don't take him too literally. >> do you agree with that, george? don't take him too literally? >> it's hard to know what he's said so far because he said it's going to expand and improve. we all know that nuclear weapons decay. they ...

Couple years ago. i think what he's saying is not i'm creating some new policy on nuclear arms, but i'm sending a signal to the chinese, to the russians, the iranians, to the north koreans, we're not going to fall behind in a nuclear arms race if there's going to be one. there was this rap in the campaign, don't take him too literally. i think there's still an admonition out there, don't take him too literally. >> do you agree with that, george? don't take him too literally? >> it's hard to know what he's said so far because he said it's going to expand and improve. we all know that nuclear we...

That much of what both leaders have said is consistent with current policy. russia is modernizing their system, and we're engaged in $108 billion program to modernize so if the talking is just live within the start treaty limits, modernize your forces, that's just a restatement of current policy. it's hard to know what a position is when it keeps changing, when it's a shoot from the hip, and especially when it's expressed in 140 some characters. >> that's a new world we're living in. >> thank you so much for joining me this morning. merry christmas. >> good to be with you. i'm going to say, ...

Rollout. they've got a very big deal in the brewing sector for you jonathan. i don't know if you drink stella but they're going to be under the same stable, a $108 billion deal, ab inbeef and anheuser-busch buying sabmiller. they've overcome one by selling sabmiller stake in millercoors to coors brewery. >> i'm more of a stoli guy. steve sedgwick live from london. time now for sports and we begin with nba action out on the west coast. the clippers, d'andre jordan in his first visit to dallas since last summer's free agency fiasco that saw jordan re-sign with los angeles after already agreein...

Says they still haven't heard from him. his family says they used to hear from him daily during his 20 years in prison but there has been no communication since the president's announcement. a terrorist bragging on twitter about joining isis in syria but he forgot to take his g.p.s. locator off. his exact location was then pinpointed. >> seven years ago debt from federal student loan programs was more than $98 billion. since then it has grown by a whopping $708 billion $119 billion of that last year alone. that brings the total federal student loan debt to $800 billion. with all this outstan...