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They've made the more severe cuts in medicaid. we can argue whether or not the benefits of the medicaid program, the fact is, they're in place and to be really uprooting them as much as they are and really as quickly as the bill proposes is going to call real impact to hospitals in new york and lower-income people in new yo york, also middle-income people, for instance, people with alzheimer's in nursing homes, kids suffering from opioid crisis. these are all issues which i think are really almost separate from obamacare. we should have dealt with obamacare, but as far as these big cuts in med...

Know, the benefits of the medicaid program, but the fact is they're in place. and to be really uprooting them as much as they are and really as quickly as, you know, the bill proposes is going to cause real impact to hospitals in new york and lower income people in new york but also middle income people, for instance people with alzheimer's who are in nursing homes, kidding suffering from opioid crisis. i mean these are all issues which i think are really almost separate from obamacare. we should have dealt with obamacare, but as far as these big cuts in medicaid, that should have been really ...

Me views and there has been a vigorous exchange. >> is one fix and would it be enough, eliminating the tax cuts on the wealthy and using that money to restore the medicaid cuts? >> it certainly would be a step in the right direction to not repeal that 3.8% increase in taxes that -- on investment income that was passed as a part of the affordable care act. that is worth something like $172 billion and if that were plowed back into the healthcare system that would make a difference. i want to distinguish that there are two kinds of taxes in the affordable care act, some of them such as the tax o...

You need to make sure women have access to this care, including referrals for cancer screening. >> thanks very much. well, up next, another concern with the health care bill, the estimated $772 billion in can yous uts to medicaid, cn tuchman has some of their stories when we come back. (woman vo) is now a good time

>> look for more money. it's critically important. we have done some research, not only for medicaid, it covers more than 70 million low income americans, four in ten american children, 50% of children born in the united states. 10 million americans depend on medicaid that provides additional treatment all around. the senate bill will reduce to growth of medicate over 10 years by $772 billion. what would it take for you to go ahead and say that i can live with a reduction in medicaid spending, how much would they have to improve that? >> i don't have a dollar figure