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Which going to you as a chair in florida, when you look at that figure 9.2% of the voters in pennsylvania don't have the voter i.d., will you look at it and find out 758,939 people don't have the i.d. in a very key and critical swing state, this could make a big difference in the presidential election in november. and then when we come down to your state of florida where we see the same kinds of problems, this could be decisive and undermining the democratic process in this election. >> absolutely. the numbers are going to be close in the number states. florida being one of them. it is always ...

He says. >> contrary to some claims, this bill does not interfere with anyone's legal right to vote. it prevents people from cheating in our election. some have argued there is no evidence of voter fraud. i don't necessarily agree with that. this is a law of prevention. it is to prevent voter fraud. >> it's a law of prevention, he's saying. which is conceding there has not been widespread voter fraud. we can't find any. but now in court they're saying they don't expect voter fraud. so what are they preventing? and when he says it doesn't prevent people from voting, we have as a fact that 758,9...

Let me finish tonight with this. they say all politics is local. for me, the ongoing debate between ballot integrity versus voter suppression is. like chris, i'm from philadelphia. he's from the city, i'm from the burbs. if pennsylvania is a battle ground state, i live in the front. that's why i can tell you the ramifications of the voter id law will have national implications. they mandate that voters produce a pennsylvania department of transportation issues photo id. when they compared driver and voter records, they found 758,939 voters were not on the driver's license lists. it is possible...

For me, the ongoing debate between ballot integrity versus voter suppression is. like chris, i'm from philadelphia. he's from the city, i'm from the burbs. if pennsylvania is a battle grund state, i live in the front. that's why i can tell you the ramphics of the voter id law will have national implications. they mandate that voters produce a pennsylvania department of transportation issues photo id. when they compared driver and voter records, they found 758,939 voters were not on the driver's license lists. it is possible that some of those individuals have the alternative form of acceptable...

Integrity versus voter suppression certainly is. i'm from philadelphia. he's from the city, i'm from the burbs. if pennsylvania is a battle ground state, then i live at the front. which is why i can tell you the ramifications of a new voter i.d. law in my home state will have national implications. the new law says voters show photo i.d. when the folks recently compared driver and voter records, they found that 758,939 voters were not on the driver's license lists. it is possible that some of those individuals have the alternative form of acceptable i.d. they include an i.d. from an accredited...