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About the health care bill is really troubling. and it's not just about trying to pull one over on the american people, it's also about the example it sets for the world. folks just don't believe this administration, not just because of the trouble they're having with our allies, but because they watch these utter fabrications being represented to the american people from the higher levels of government. this is a big issue for the credibility of this administration and the credibility of this country, not just inside the health care debate but more globally as well. >> congressional budget of...

Get sicker and sicker. the republican admits they will dump billions of dollars in and say please charge less and try to counteract the death spiral, but the republicans that obamacare. chris: i understand. they will not fix the problem so that. here is why conservatives say it is still worth supporting. it is they contend the most significant medicaid reform after. it turns an open-ended entitlement into a lot grand for states compared to current law cuts medicaid spending $772 billion by 2026. are you willing, senator, to see all that go down the drain? >> some of the medicaid reform

Get sicker and sicker. the republican admits they will dump billions of dollars in and say please charge less and try to counteract the death spiral, but the republicans that obamacare. chris: i understand. they will not fix the problem so that. here is why conservatives say it is still worth supporting. it is they contend the most significant medicaid reform after. it turns an open-ended entitlement into a lot grand for states compared to current law cuts medicaid spending $772 billion by 2026. are you willing, senator, to see all that go down the drain? >> some of the medicaid reform

Which i happen to like, being part of the bill, is that going to help with some of the conservatives? >> yeah, you've already started to see senator cruz who had been calling this obama care light, start to come on, ron johnson from wisconsin, maybe mike lee from utah. so it is starting to assuage them. they have sort of given up some of their reservations about this bill. as you said, it is not root and branch reform, but it is a net improvement and directional progress. >> but you think it's actually a pretty important reform? >> i think it is pretty important reform. what james is talking a...

The senate bill, sir, would trim $772 billion in federal medicaid funding over a decade. what do you say to the millions of americans who would lose health care coverage as a result of that, those deep cuts to federal medicaid funding? >> well, arthel, i respectfully disagree with that position. i will tell you that what we're doing is slowing the growth of medicaid, and that's something that we haved to do. we are $20 trillion in debt as a nation, and we have a real serious issue with our mandatory spending curve and continuing to grow medicaid and expand it the way that the obamacare legisla...