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To november. i would say some time around the 1st of november. maybe before that. >> it is not clear exactly what trump meant or who the "we" is there. there is no chance of a plan passing before then. congress is already in recess through the election and after that, it is unlikely to pass during the lame duck session. there is a deep divide. many critics say this was corporate welfare. it helped corporate america, not the middle class. trump acknowledged saturday adding the plan would not be for businesses at all. also not helping in the tax bill is the original $1.5 trillion tax cut is rais...

The reformation. those the dynamics but everyone must in fact stick on the economy and we should be fine if all of the elements come together. steve: that's really important. by the way those mechanics really matter.the trump campaign did very well in a lot of that in 2016 which is underreported. kennedy, you're interested in an issue which is not being highlighted. >> no, no was talking about. they're all addicted to spending. everyone awash in, you not there so you would agree with me. they rush to the trough. and everyone knows the president has his plan where he wants federal agencies to c...

The reformation. those the dynamics but everyone must in fact stick on the economy and we should be fine if all of the elements come together. steve: that's really important. by the way those mechanics really matter.the trump campaign did very well in a lot of that in 2016 which is underreported. kennedy, you're interested in an issue which is not being highlighted. >> no, no was talking about. they're all addicted to spending. everyone awash in, you not there so you would agree with me. they rush to the trough. and everyone knows the president has his plan where he wants federal agencies to c...

This is about money. and a lot of money. and you what happens to our deficit. you already found out that our deficit is going up 17% to $779 billion. another tax cut, would just push that further. right? we would just owe more money at the end of the day. as you were mentioning in the break, who is going to support this? is the far right wing of the party going to support this? they don't like deficits. liberals, democrats aren't going to support anything from trump. how do this advance? >> shepard: well, it could certainly be a taking point. but to try to carve out a place for another middle ...

About what happened to jamal khashoggi. but there's more. the deficit, at $779 billion now, the highest it's been since 2012. and the president's signature campaign promise, stopping immigration along our southern border, falling apart. border crossings are actually up. a record 16,685 family members arrested in september. up 80% from july. 80%. that as a migrant caravan fueling instability in honduras makes its way north. sources telling cnn that's why the screaming match blew up today between john kelly and john bolton. they also say trump is incensed about the rising levels of migrants. >> ...