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Let's begin with the shutdown. your one of nine members who represented district along the southern border with mexico. at this point you're the only republican representing a border district. you along with every other member on this map that we are showing aligned next to mexico, you opposed to demand for a new wall. your district makes up a third of the entire boerd with mexico about 820 miles of territory whether president trump wants to build a wall across. tell us why you oppose the president's plan on this specific issue. >> i think building a concrete structure is a most expensive and ...

Wall -- on the border feel about the president's wall? tonight, we'll speak with two congressmen who between them represent districts that make up more than half of the entire border between u.s. and mexico. you see their pictures up there. the majority of the border between texas and mexico runs along texas' 23rd congressional district, a district so big that it's larger than 29 states. can you believe that? it makes up one third of the entire u.s./mexico border. president trump's proposed border wall would cover some 820 miles in the 23rd. my point is,, just about no one in washington is as ...

Immoral so i probably would differ on that characterization, but-- >> and the grammar distinction is impressive. >> right, i've been to the border and talked to the border patrol people and they say that barriers, whatever, however you want to characterize the barrier, are effective in one thing and one thing only, they don't keep people out, they slow people down, they slow people down and when they're trying to cross the border so they can be apprehended so the question is, where do you put it? you know, we've got one representative in congress, a republican named will herd who represents 82...

Or whether the president is going to sign a bill. tell me where things stand in your opinion. >> where things stand is that the american people sent us up to washington, d.c., to get things done, not burn the place down, so we should be able to fund the government. we have funded eight out of the 24 major departments and agencies. we have these remaining to do. the senate was able to pass this short-term continuing resolution. i think the house should take that up. you know, let's see how many votes that has and does it have a veto-proof majority. we don't know the answer to that. also this fa...

The most expensive and least effective way to do border security. you know what you're talking about, you represent the state of texas, you are at the border as you've just described. what is a better way than a wall and do you believe the president at some point will get this wall? >> and, willie, i appreciate that. you are absolutely right, i have more border than any other member of congress, 820 miles. i spent almost a decade as an undercover officer in the cia chasing bad guys all over the world. a better use of that money would be on technology, what i like to call the smart wall. the te...