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The department of defense will come up with their own rules for that. but this is really a powerful signal about the degrees to which mandates are needed to spur vaccination rates given the numbers of still vaccine hesitant people here in this country, steph. >> how about even getting more powerful, dr. emmanuel? we said in the beginning there were going to be anti-vaxxers, but there's a whole lot of people who are hesitant. if they wanted to get back to their normal lives, they would need to get vaccinated. we're seeing mandates in france. they're mandating health passes for dining and travel...

If they don't do that and they suppress it, congress is going to have to investigate it. they'll get it one way or the other. >> neal katyal, thanks for joining me. >> thank you. we just played your chair jerry nadler's response to this. what's your response so far. >> well, we are determined, indeed, to get the complete unedited mueller report turned over to congress and the american people and we want not only the report except for whatever might be top secret classified, but we want all of the understand lying evidentiary materials in which they made their judgment and there's excellent p...

Because we, of course, have an independent constitutional role to play and we have a complete set of questions. for one thing, they may not be looking for that, but we have a much broader responsibility in order to do that? you're saying there's precedent for that rather than the recently conducted email use of the former secretary of state that after that, 880,000 documents were handed over to the congressionary committee? >> sure. we've seen things, peter strzok and the late night i'ms, all of those were asked for we by republican chairs of the congressional committees. they were turned over...

It's hard for me to figure out what leverage could be used against him. >> well, congress has considerable leverage, and certainly we would begin by requesting the voluntary production, the information, and then move to subpoenas and then move to court enforcement, and then think about other means of pressuring the department to be transparent, but it will be unsustainable for the justice department to take that position. in the last congress, rachel, the justice department provided over 880,000 pages of discovery of evidence to the republican congress in the answer to subpoenas in an investig...

I'm just going to sit on all of the rest of it. presumably subpoenaing the report, subpoenaing mr. mueller himself, subpoenaing other people involved in the investigation, ultimately those subpoenas get enforced through the justice department, don't they? i mean, if william barr decided that he was going to dig in his heels and let none of this out, it's hard for me to figure out what leverage could be used against him. >> well, congress has considerable leverage, and certainly we would begin by requesting the voluntary production, the information, and then move to subpoenas and then move to c...