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Where certain people cannot do certain things, and we will go in a completely different culture and environment. interesting case comes to my father, who's an immigration lawyer also. a plane is flying over, an american man flag plane. a child is born on the plane. the child, when it lands, is an american citizen. the mother doesn't. we already have challenges. that child cannot sponsor mom until 21 years later and mom has to get her affairs in order. look, the president knows that this is expressly there. he is trying to perform. i do not believe him to be a big -- and i'm not here to defend ...

The 19512 walter mccarron act codifies it further declaring 8usc1401, a person born in the united states is a u.s. citizen. this whole argument is a false narrative. a child that comes into america cannot sponsor they're parent until they're 21. there are protections in the law. if that child's parent did not come in legally, they can never be sponsored properly. so this is all again more banter to get people to the midterm election. >> that's exactly what i was going to say. we've had this conversation with legal experts like you, all of whom who say very similar and very smart things you hav...

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Right, you know. we need to listen to each other and talk to each other. there's so much to be gained from listening to what other have to say. constructive criticism can be a good thing, help us move forward to the country, help us do better. so i believe in thoughtful dialogue and thoughtful discourse, and discourse that is useful and helpful. not in what we have right now, this discourse where people are saying, demonizing each other. that doesn't help us. look at this current batch of campaign commercials and they're the meanest i have seen in years. >> and you have seen a lot. >> i have s...