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Organize, and i am an organizer. we worked out where i was a coordinator for the entire event although i was from a different organization and the 9.12 project was a sponsor of the event. >> we can talk about that as a model of how to tap into the power without stepping on people's toes and respecting their right to do what they are comfortable with. we organized the event and freedom works was set apart and built a massive coalition of groups and there are 1,000 groups i can't name that made it work that day. and we thought we would get 100,000 people and we were optimistic about that and we ...

-- told the story of someone came to a staff member a couple weeks ago on the road and they said glenn has to get involved in 9.12 we are not leaders and don't know what we are doing and i was stressed out and i said to my staff member, call them and say do they think i know what i'm doing? we're all kind of, what were you before? where did your expertise come from? >> i'm an economist by training. so i shut know anything about grass roots organization. >> about anything. >> right. and your training? >> i'm a computer programmer. i've been active if republican party in the past. not anymore. i...

But as a united front. let me introduce the guests. the cofounder of the national tea party federation, and the cofounder of tea party patriots, also one of the 100 most influential people in the world according to time magazine. and also she is a national coordinator, and the president of freedom works, and the national chair of the 9/12 project and a representative of tea party express later in the program. you guys were invited because you four here and the one on the television are the five big of the groups in america and does everyone agree with the concept we are at a crucial point? >> ...

Productive action for peoples to take. i would say that it's in the a question of hopeless. we're tired. we have been doing this and i have a full time job, and many of us do, and 9.12ers a volunteer organization we do this on our freedom so i wouldn't say hopeless. i would say we do get tired but there is gasoline on that fire that keeps us going. >> i think, i believe that as i look to the focus, the association i am associated with there is an extreme energy. that is what is happening. in a year and a half we went from emotional elements of tea party rally to making a difference, recruiting...

Was big into the anti-nuke thing. this is a system made for radicals. and if you look at it, where we are is the perception of failure. we have the ripening conditions, the trigger event, step four was the trigger event. 9/12 last year when everybody got involved. and people are like look it, we do have a movement. in it they outlines why that failure is happening. the system isn't working and the administration is pushing it down and saying we're not going to change our ways stage 5 is the critical movement. if the tea party movement falls apart and this is where they usually fall apart. if i...