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S its a seinfeld shutdown. Im michael smerconish. When we have been here before, it was for understandable reasons. In the 90s it was about spend ing cuts. 2013 the issue was bipartisan disagreement over the Affordable Care act on president obamas watch. In 2018 the issue was president trumps desire to build a wall on the mexican border. But this time, the American Enterprise institute has started to recefer to the impasse as th seinfeld shutdown. It dates fwook georges pitch to tv executives. I think i can sum up the show for you with one word. Nothing. Nothing . Nothing. What does that mean ...

Welcome to the program. happy friday. so, david, start with you. d'souza is a man that hates barack obama. he basically has a whole movie criticizing barack obama. is that the reason he was pardoned by president trump? >> don i think this is at least reason why president trump feels this infinity for dinesh d'souza. dinesh d'souza started out as this sort of interesting anti-pc young conservative of color way back in the '90ss. and he's become this caricature of himself with these unhinged critiques of president obama. president obama a moderate centrist democrat, someone like gerald ford. and...

Know, of the blue. this has been around washington for a long time, including from what former congressman waxman said and president clinton in the '90ss. states are clamoring for choice, clamoring for flexibility, and we intend to provide that for them. and i think that states are likely to cover probably more people if they choose to do so. and i would encourage everyone to look at healthy indiana plan and what we've done there. >> you keep using the words choice and people will -- more people or as many will be covered if they choose to buy. do you think any american would actually choose n...

Sorry if you were offended. i'm sorry that what i said was taken out of context. i'm sorry that i misspoke. obviously i didn't mean that terrible thing i said. how could you think that about me? that's sort of the norm when it comes to political apologies. occasionally you get the full appalachian trail, the full on, i screwed up apology. this is trent lott. he was the top republican in the united states senate in the '90ss and early 2000s. represented mississippi. he got caught out on tape praising segregation, specifically he said if strom thurmond had been elected president in the 1940s whe...

Dissident right now with the way -- with your personal views and the way people seem to feel? >> i think the greatest lesson from the '90ss is the president in '93 actually increased -- president clinton increased taxes on the highest income americans and the economy grew for eight years straight. so i think he actually had the evidence of his presidency is that you can have fair taxes and grow our economy. >> thank you so much. congratulations. >> thank you so much. great to be here. >> great to see you, neera. president bill clinton joining mika and joe tomorrow on "morning joe." and is ...