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5,171 applications for credible fear asylum request. 2016, 91,786. an increase of 1675%. do you think there is any fraud there, dinesh? >> i would like to step back for a moment and look at this a slightly different way. the founders looked at america as a kind of moral community. a group of people who have a common set of values and a common destiny. almost in some senses like an extended family. if someone came banging on your door and said listen, i am in fear because i'm being chased by a gang, i would submit that the ordinary person would be a little skeptical before giving them "asylum,"...

5,171 applications for credible fear asylum request. 2016, 91,786. an increase of 1675%. do you think there is any fraud there, dinesh? >> i would like to step back for a moment and look at this a slightly different way. the founders looked at america as a kind of moral community. a group of people who have a common set of values and a common destiny. almost in some senses like an extended family. if someone came banging on your door and said listen, i am in fear because i'm being chased by a gang, i would submit that the ordinary person would be a little skeptical before giving them "asylum,"...