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Put social security in a discussion as we are trying to get a deal. medicare can, i think, be massaged in terms of means testing. with the upper income individuals paying more or sometimes all of their medical expenses, it makes no sense for the government to pay medicare costs for someone earning $700,000 a year. so i think we can do some means testing. but by no means am i saying it should be low enough so our elderly and poorist americans are going to pay for the deficit. but we want a deal. and keep in mind, i think this is very important. if the bush tax cuts are expired, as they will be,...

Massaged in terms of means testing. with the upper income individuals paying more or sometimes all of their medical expenses. it makes no sense for the government to pay medicare costs for somebody who is earning $700,000 a year. a million dollars a year. so i think we can do some means testing. but by no means am i saying it the means test should be low enough so that our elderly and our poorest americans are going to pay for the deficit. but we want a deal. we want a deal. we'll deal with medicare. and keep in mind, i think this is very important. if the bush tax cuts are expired, as they wi...

We equate it to throwing granny off the cliff and we are just throwing the growth? >>guest: i wasn't part of that. we have to stop that crazy talk. >>neil: your organization stands behind like the modern day don't touch my junk. >>guest: social security is not the problem. they have not contributed to the deficit. >>neil: show me an entitlement you would top. we are not talking about taking food away from the elderly, is there anything you would touch beyond taxing rich people? >>guest: we have to take a serious look at medicare. >>neil: your organization seems to put out, don't touch that, no...

Forms of debt like auto debt mortgage debt that declined. u.s. student debt rose $950 billion according to the federal bank of new york. now 11 percent of those balances are at least 90-days late. that is higher than credit card late payments for the first time in history. >> if the student continue to default that is the u.s. taxpayers picking up the tabs. >> most of the student debt is in the grace period so the number is probably even higher. >> we will keep following that one. christmas air fares are expected to be up. airlines continue to gouge us. >> you will pay 8 percent more than last...