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The a.g. says no way. no apartment in the city has ever sold in anything like that. how about his mar-a-lago club in florida? the lawsuit says trump claimed it was worth as much as $739 million. when, according to the lawsuit, it was actually worth about $75 million. his golf courses, same story there. for example, the lawsuit says trump bought one course out there for $5 million in 2012. and the very next year claimed it was worth $62 million. on and on and on it goes of the former president took the feift hundreds of type when he was asked about this under oath. after the lawsuit was reveale...

Asked, i am sure about every single allegation in there. and basically what he did is he took the fifth amendment, meaning that a truthful answer to the question asked would tend to incriminate him. so, that gives the a.g.'s office a huge advantage. they've got evidence that it happened, and then they've got donald trump taking the fifth on every single aspect of this. i mean, this ought to be a slam dunk case. but it's completely different once you take it into the criminal realm because you cannot use a person's assertion of the fifth amendment right against them in a criminal case. >> but y...

He's a con, he's a fraud. donald trump will do anything. there's no dumpster dirty enough he won't play in in order to get himself out of liability. >> so if what the a.g. laid out is proven, it will prove that he's a con, right? do you think she can prove it? >> oh, absolutely. i've seen the documents. i know, as you probably saw today, which is why i'm here, she credited the beginning of the investigation to my testimony before the house oversight committee. >> yeah. so you said there's something you believe that we're getting wrong about the amount of money that she wants. >> yeah. so the s...

Taken sgplace. >> okay. but didn't address the numbers not lining up. what happens if the state can prove its case? >> that's when it gets really interesting for the trumps. the attorney general wants the trumps to forfeit a quarter billion dollars as you mentioned earlier and to basically be barred from leading any sort of business in new york. this would just tear the pilings out from underneath the trump empire in new york. this is a civil case, so it cannot send any of them to jail. but a separate credible tax fraud case against the organization by the manhattan district attorney is expect...

In these deceptions. and so they're going to have an equally tough time. i'll be surprised if this actually goes to trial. if trump agrees to close the trump organization, pay the discount of $250 million in penalties that are sought, then i think that's the more likely outcome in this because the factual case that attorney general james laid out is apparent that key insiders walked away with the civil vision. >> what you are looking for as the next move? the a.g. kept pointing to lots of things being up to the judge. what do you think happens next and how quickly does it happen? >> the next m...