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And i should say that you don't take government money from the united states. to other countries. but you call for government to spend more on foreign aid. why when so much has been squandered? >> it is important to know that we're calling for more of the right kind of a. john: this is going to be the right kind. >> there are some things that we think the united states government is doing that we think is not a good use of money. particular, food aid is in desperate need of reform. we miss about half of the value of every dollar that we spend because we require it to be shipped in american ves...

And i should say that you don't take government money from the united states. to other countries. but you call for government to spend more on foreign aid. why when so much has been squandered? >> it is important to know that we're calling for more of the right kind of a. john: this is going to be the right kind. >> there are some things that we think the united states government is doing that we think is not a good use of money. particular, food aid is in desperate need of reform. we miss about half of the value of every dollar that we spend because we require it to be shipped in american ves...

And the uselessness of most interventions into everyday life is not just about caught. john: people claim organizing libertarians of her political party invite herding cats. don't let anyone tell you that it's easy. >> anyone can herd cattle. john: i was a great super bowl commercial. they have a point. the libertarian party has never done much of anything. >> that is true and the fact is that sometimes it has more than two parties basically there's always going to be two major parties because that's the way the system shakes out. a lot can change what is changing is that libertarian ideas, wi...

Are principled and they don't place the party at the top level. john: i'm surprised that a first-term senator, your son is already getting traction and more attention and people talk about him as a presidential candidate. >> i think that's very encouraging. i was pretty skeptical when he first announced it. and i thought, okay, but maybe it turned out much better. >> his popularity has grown. >> this is a sign of what is happening for sure. and, you know, just a mamas, he is in the house, and he has let that bill to try to rein in the house and we are seeing a lot of positive things happening....

Libertarianism? argentina or the united states? >> we are running conferences about europe this fall. we ran a conference in venezuela at the beginning of this year. many of them had over 350 attendees. >> how do they get the concept? >> americans don't. >> i think a lot of americans do, especially young people in america. the other great thing is that with the internet, people have access towards communicating and connecting with each other in ways that we never could have before. students for liberty would not have been around. john: