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Turn-out among conservative republicans across the country, i don't care how many independents -- normally independents will split 52/48, right? you could lose. there is something to be said about having to get your base, very conservative voters to the polls. that's an issue i agree with. you put words in my mouth. >> andrea: a comment that rick santorum made in 2008 taking heat on. some of the base may like it. in 2008 he said satan set his sights on the united states of america. he is attacking great institutions of america using those great vices of pride. he went on to keep mentioning sat...

Competitive. manufacturing the cars of the future. making them more fuel efficient. those are the facts. and mitt romney knew exactly what he was saying back then, when he said, let detroit go bankrupt. he meant, let them go bankrupt. let them liquidate. let the auto industry no longer exist in this country. those are the facts. >> stephanie cutter, i have to tell you, i didn't see anything in that debate tonight that seemed very threatening to the obama re-election campaign. >> well, you know, this race is still going to be close. you know, this country is still very divided. but i think -- >...

>> stephanie cutter, i have to tell you, i didn't see anything in that debate tonight that seemed very threatening to the obama re-election campaign. >> well, you know, this race is still going to be close. you know, this country is still very divided. but i think -- >> well, that's what the poll indicates. the poll indicates anybody with the word "republican" will get at least 45% of the vote. so we'll be counting somewhere between 51/49 or 52/48 is where it's going to end up >> and it was the same way four years ago, and we've got to find a way to break through that. and i think what we're s...

Turn-out among conservative republicans across the country, i don't care how many independents -- normally independents will split 52/48, right? you could lose. there is something to be said about having to get your base, very conservative voters to the polls. that's an issue i agree with. you put words in my mouth. >> andrea: a comment that rick santorum made in 2008 taking heat on. some of the base may like it. in 2008 he said satan set his sights on the united states of america. he is attacking great institutions of america using those great vices of pride. he went on to keep mentioning sat...

Up on this or will 60% of -- i'm sorry, wilsis wi sorry, wisconsin, will 60% of wisconsin take and form an opinion on that? president obama won that state. he's afraid to say anything about this, because it could end up that, you know, 60% of the state goes a certain way on this, or maybe it stays, you know, 52/48 and that's just a situation that's too close for the president to lean one way or the other very strongly, because he has to win that state two years from now. >> indeed. lawrence o'donnell it's great to have you on the show. thanks for getting up early because we know you stay up la...