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Should not be paying to subsidize poor folks because they are getting a big tax cut. >> you're talking about age rating provisions in obamacare. >> ahca. >> yes. let me just tell you, the reality is and i published on this and actuaries have published on this. people 64 consume five times the amount of health care as somebody who is 20 years old. now, what the aca did is say you can't charge them more than three to one. here is what happened. remember we were talking about before the election. there weren't enough young people signing up. why? going five to one to three to one, they drove up p...

Insurance companies who have to file rates pretty quickly say i'm not so sure i can file a rate in 2018, tell me what the rules will be. and they still haven't done it. >> and as you know, the criticisms have been heard by you included last time you and i spoke you did admit that obamacare could use some tweaking here. and i think the number that you gave me is something like -- >> oh, you bet. >> 20% or 25%, you would change. . there's saying those who would support trumpcare what it's being called right now is look at the insurance companies like aetna, for instance, leaving the system, leav...

And the wealthy, essentially, should not be paying to subsidize poor folks because they are getting a big tax cut. >> you're talking about age rating provisions in obamacare. >> ahca. >> yes. let me just tell you, the reality is and i published on this and actuaries have published on this. people 64 consume five times the amount of health care as somebody who is 20 years old. now, what the aca did is say you can't charge them more than three to one. here is what happened. remember we were talking about before the election. there weren't enough young people signing up. why? going five to one to...

It's socioeconomic diversity. we need that because it impacts people differently. >> i got to run, rick, i'm so sorry. i think we can all agree that -- beyond the political impact of the trumpcare bill are the real world consequences for many families. coming up, i'll speak with a former administrator from the department of health and human services about the potential reality of the trumpcare law. st st about a medication... ...this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain... ...and protect my joints from further damage. humira has been clinically studied for over 18 years. humira...

Opponents of ahca say that because health status is up for interpretation, there is no control in the bill to prevent rising costs for survivors of rape and sexual assault. at least 45 states have laws prohibiting health insurance companies from using a woman's status as a domestic violence survivor to deny coverage, according to the national women's law center. so i guess i'll ask you this. does the gop have a communication problem of getting out the right info of what's actually in this bill? and then how do they fix it? at been problem on both sides of the bill when they try to push out an ...