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What mueller may or may not be focusing on -- when it comes to obstruction of justice. i think it is leading to this assumption that it is the larger part of his investigation. based on what you know, what can you say the scope of what the -- the obstruction of justice charge versus everything else he's looking at? >> so there is a unknown there. the obstruction seems relatively easy. we can understand it. in fact, we can read it. >> is that why we know so much about it. because it is a beginning and middle and end already. >> it is a more discrete act. the russia interference piece is much mo...

Joyce vance, what do you make of this, we've been through nixon, we've been through cases where they've tried at the white house to say we can't talk almost like a husband can't testify against his spouse or something like that. how hard is that principle of executive privilege here? >> you know, executive privilege is one of those amorphous legal topics not fully fleshed out. it develops over time in the case law. so the question, does it protect these kinds of testimonial experiences that the white house is trying to apparently shut down? the most interesting aspect of this problem is that s...

This to me is what is so striking here. the president's world view is am biv lent, amorphous, it changes. he said yesterday how flexible he is. we are in the midst of this war essentially of what trumpism is. you said here he is managing these twin crises. he's surrounded by his advisers, jared kushner with no foreign policy experience, steve bannon, a man who purchased seinfeld residuals and then ran a right wing remember site, and his daughter, ivanka trump, who has a clothing business among other things. those are the individuals that are guiding him through these very freighted, difficult ...

Unnecessarily restricting use of private property. >> when you get such a vague and amorphous law, then you put all the power in the hands of unelected bureaucrats. >> reporter: for years, many republicans have called for reform of the endangered species act, arguing that wildlife advocates can exploit the law to block economic development. but environmental groups contend it still serves a vital purpose. >> since it was passed 44 years ago, 2,000 species have been listed, only 1% have come off that list. that means we have saved 99% of those see cease from going extinct -- species from going ...

Action which includes creating a task force to combat hate crimes. in new york, laura ingle, fox news. julie: so while president trump promises action to fix chicago's crime rate, one group is already getting results by talking directly to gang members. but now they're facing trouble of their own, money trouble. we'll explain. plus, an endangered spider is spinning a web of legal issues among a ranch owner, the federal government, the state of texas. >> when you get such a vague and amorphous law, then you put all amorphous law, then you put all the power in the hands of hi m i'm raph. my na...