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Hardball With Chris Matthews-20191112-00:02:00

and former under secretary of state anita kumar, white house correspondent and associate editor at politico, aaron blake senior political reporter at "the washington post." ambassador, tell us, when you think about this witness list especially these three this week, how will the american people hear this? what will they hear as the central narrative this week? >> well, chris, the public is going to hear but they'll also see for the first time three professional diplomats all nonpartisan, all of whom have worked for republican presidents as well as democratic presidents. all of whom are there to tell the truth, the three of them, the three strongest experts on ukraine in the entire u.s. government. they're going to tell this story of the extortion by the trump administration, the attempted extortion of the ukrainian government. what it -- how wrong that was, and what it did to our policy,

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190103:15:22:00

washington post and aaron blake senior political reporter joining me on a balcony, lonnie, let me start with you. is that your former boss encouraging alternatives to president trump in 2020. is that how you read it? >> no look, i think he's stating what a lot of people believe to be the obvious. which is there will be a marketplace outside of donald trump. how big that marketplace will be is going to be the big question. but i don't think he is encouraging people to do it. i think he's stating the obvious, which is that someone will present as an alternative to donald trump. the only question is who that will be. >> who do you think it will be? or who should it be, in your view? >> look, i think you have a lot of people, jeff flake, ben sasss some have said, i don't know if it will be any of these people. it may be no one people are thinking of now. there will be an opportunity for somebody to present an alternative vision to donald trump. the problem is donald trump has a 98% approval rating.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190103:15:25:00

president trump. you see president trump always trying to consolidate his power not only by build a wall and rally his voters, by making that anti-trump republican still stays in his camp. >> nancy, while we're having this conversation, we want to remind folks, we could see mitt romney pop his head out and take questions. when you look at the rnc, the republican party circling the wagons around donald trump to try to protect him. do you realistically think the rnc will make changes to make sure he does not get primary or put road blocks in place? >> i think it's a little too early to tell. we saw with romney there are very few republicans who came out when he published that op-ed to publish his defense. >> john kasich said, welcome to the fray. >> there weren't other senators on capitol hill and walk, republican versus always followed behind donald trump. that's what they continued to do. >> aaron. >> the rnc could have easily put these projections in place in

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190103:15:49:00

>> before we say good-bye to you, a quick check on who our sources are saying. a segment we like to do every show. aaron, yours relates to what's going on, on capitol hill down the road. >> the senate is obviously being sworn in today. i think one of the early questions is how quickly bill barr gets confirmed as attorney general assuming he does. >> his hearings start the 15th and 16th? >> i think that's right. the question is how fast can he be confirmed? will there be recusal? things like that? given it seems by all indications that we have which aren't complete, that robert mueller could be wrapping things up. the question is whether that gets wrapped up while matthew whitaker is in place or bill barr. if whitaker does something to stymie this. >> that could be problematic. so far, he seems to be deferring to rod rosenstein. >> nancy, you are working on a story more related on what's going on down pennsylvania avenue. >> we have seen this tremendous exodus of cabinet officials

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