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What does this tell you, especially that photo? >> well, we have a virtually the exact same photo from yesterday, him doing the same thing to jim acosta. and he's also called jim and john karl and many others stupid and dumb question, and that photo right there is chilling for a lot of reasons. i come from the news world, but i also have worked on communications for presidential candidates. and there needs to be a lower temperature with regard to this administration, how the press is handled. it just needs to go down. look, when you're the president of the united states and you ask for the res...

>> well, he might be protected from criminal indictment, but a misrepresentation and on series of, you know, not just petty matters, but substantive, potentially criminal matters on which a president is lying to the american people it becomes a question of political oversight. we've just gotten access to the road map that the watergate grand jury sent to the house of representatives in 1974. it was unsealed after all these decades through litigation. a big part of the road map is president nixon lying to the american people which the house then regarded as a substantive potential ground for im...

Oversight of mueller's investigation, one of them being rod rosenstein, urged sessions to delay the date of his resignation but trump wouldn't allow it. how does this look to you? what do you read into that? >> well, it's hard to know legally how this is all going to shake out. mueller is very smart. probably will not take any preemptive moves and watch how this plays out before he decides what to do. but we don't know how it's going to play out. as john barrett mentioned, you know, a lot of legal scholars question whether this is a legitimate appointment and it can be challenged and it probab...

And she shouldn't be. >> you want them to rein in robert mueller? >> what a stupid question that is. >> what a stupid question. but i watch you a lot. you ask a lot of stupid questions. >> okay, so he says for april, he think cnn but then he tells abby -- he says i watch you a lot and abby is on cnn. so anyway. but i digress. there is, nina, there's a method to the madness and the vicious tone from this president to three journalists trying to do their jobs. >> absolutely, don. there's a lot to unpack here. got a big suitcase on this one. i mean, you know, loser, stupid, i mean, this president...

That is very simply what this is about. no one should support tough questions not being able to be asked anymore. >> you can hate jim acosta. you can love him or hate him, but you have to respect his ability to be there. the point here is that it's not about acosta. it's about the white house trying to choose who gets to cover the trump administration. and that's not going to fly. look, jim's still doing reporting, still doing the work. you don't have to be at the white house to do parts of the job, but you do have to be there to ask the president questions. the president is trying to pick his...