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Nichols just alluded to, there's a lot more we believe robert mueller has on flynn. in terms of his relationship with the government of turkey, his failure to disclose lobbying on behalf of turkey. a potential arrangement where he was allegedly going to be paid a large sum of money, maybe as much as $50 million, to facilitate the extradition of a turkish dissident in the united states. so when you see this single charge, that's generally -- what that means is that's the one they decided that he would admit to. and whatever else -- whatever other criminal conduct they believe he's committed, th...

Cooperation agreement. reportedly there are two counts of lying to the fbi. these are serious counts, john. each count, by the way, carries a five-year penalty and in theory, you could get consecutive sentences under these counts, so he could be looking at ten years in prison. so that gives prosecutors substantial leverage over him to require him to continue cooperating with them. i think that you see only two counts being handed down because that gives them sufficient leverage. that doesn't mean whatever cooperation agreement likely exists if it breaks down, they could -- they may have other ...

Information without the approval of the president. you do it all the time. >> well, i guess you're talking about court -- but not about -- core privileges of the executive branch, such as private conversations, between his -- >> but even for that, there's still this rule that the issue has to be presented to the president. we have -- you have a moment, what they call a request of the congressional body to hold this request for information in abeyance. you have a period of abeyance you're allowed to ask for under the executive order while you get the presidential determination if you're going t...

>> i guess you are talking about -- but not -- core privileges of the executive branch such as private conversations between his top cabinet people. >> there is still this rule that the issue has to be presented to the president. we have -- you have a moment what they call a request of the congressional body to hold the request for information in abeyance. you are allowed to ask for under the executive order while you get the presidential determination if you are going to assert executive privilege but sooner or later the claim of executive privilege must be made with the specific approval of ...

Of executive privilege. we have questions that we've asked you about going back to your intelligence committee appearance in june or july. i mean, how long a period of abeyance do you need to get the answer from the white house as to whether these questions a protected or not? you can't have a situation in which the president never has to assert it and the abeyance goes on indefinitely, don't you agree with that? >> well, i think you make a point. but the burden is on those who want to breach a core privilege of the president, which is private conversations with his attorney general, to show p...