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>> whether it is an effort to distract or to discredit his critics as he has demonstrated a clear want to do, it is illegal. it is illegal because it is retaliation for protected speech. criticism of him well warranted. even if it were not well warranted, it would still be improper and illegal, and abhorent to our ideas. >> you're accusing him of a crime? >> breaking the law is not necessarily committing a crime, violating the first amendment can be if done with criminal motive, violation of law, but it is certainly abuse of his power under the first amendment that breaks the spirit and letter...

Night. this happened before trump released that video apology on facebook, though. >> i'm out. i can no longer endorse donald trump for president. i -- there's no possible way i vote for hillary clinton, but these are abhorent. these are wrong. to use a baseball metaphor, i have to call balls and strikes the way i see them. my wife, julie and i, we've got a 15-year-old daughter. do you think i can look her in the eye and tell her i support donald trump and his apology? there was no apology. that was an apology for getting caught. to say bill clinton did it and did it worse, that should have ...

Whole for marriage equality, but for the youngest cohurt of republicans we see that. there are two different items in play. you can recognize that you are increasingly a minority in american opinion and still have the plbeliefs you have. if you are firmly committed to the notion that any relationship between a man and a man or a woman and woman is abhorent. >> you can also be a true believer in that and say i defend people's rights to disagree with me and i defend to live other than what i live and sincerely believe is the right way to live? >> i totally agree. but the interesting thing to me,...