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>> yes. that's why the biogenesis was big. he wrus used testosterone. >> what are peptides? >> a compound, a couple different compound they have of, say, growth hormones of testosterone and not the compound. it's missing a couple of things. you inject in your body it's supposed to fill in the markers and acts the same way. doesn't leave the testosterone. >> to really crack down on this, do you have to some somebody who comes forward? is testing enough or do you have to have somebody on the inside who comes forward? >> well, baseball's doing a good -- the reason baseball is where its at right n...

>> doesn't show up in tests? >> olympics and stuff, tested. it's hard. something that doesn't leave markers. i'm not a scientist, not a doctor, but i know so many people that have tested for drugs and never caught with it. it's just something that helps recuperation. when you add anabolics, you grow the muscle. >> that's the testosterone? >> yes. that's why the biogenesis was big. he used testosterone. peptides is huge. >> what are peptides? how is that different? >> a compound, a couple different compound they have of, say, growth hormones of testosterone and not the compound. it's missing a ...

Sources this sunday morning are telling nbc sports that yankees star alex rodriguez will be suspended for the remainder of the 2013 season and likely the entire 2014 season. major league baseball commissioner bud selig expected to make that announcement tomorrow. i want to bring in bob costas of nbc sporpts. always good to have you, bob, especially with a developing story like this. this is about biogenesis, as mayor giuliani referred to, and a second round of steroid use for alex rodriguez. >> yeah. and they feel, "they" being baseball, feel that they have such abundant evidence against him t...

A major suspension. as you look at that, what do you think this morning? >> i don't know. you showed me that picture, and it's very, very sad. he, alex rodriguez, went out of his way to not only autograph that for the boy, wonderful young boy, but he also gave him his glove, his batting glove. and the young boy still has that batting glove and he says, i have a batting glove that a-rod sweated into. his sweat was in here. he shows me the batting glove. i've seen the other side of a-rod. extremely kind to kids, very good teammate. i can't evaluate this. here's the part i'm a little confused abo...

A major suspension. as you look at that, what do you think this morning? >> i don't know. you showed me that picture, and it's very, very sad. he, alex rodriguez, went out of his way to not only autograph that for the boy, wonderful young boy, but he also gave him his glove, his batting glove. and the young boy still has that batting glove and he says, i have a batting glove that a-rod sweated into. his sweat was in here. he shows me the batting glove. i've seen the other side of a-rod. extremely kind to kids, very good teammate. i can't evaluate this. here's the part i'm a little confused abo...