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Expansion of a restriction on a woman's right to chose, and we can't agree to that. >> with the members of your caucus, if there was some deal struck, if the final legislation looked more like things that were in the stupak amendment, the version of the senate bill, would those 190 members really vote against the ultimate health reform bill? >> after congressman stupak passed his amendment in the house version, which said nobody could buy insurance in these exchanges with their own private dollars if it included abortion coverage, i circulated a letter and the letter simply said, we are not go...

>> well, we're going to continue to work with bart stupak and those members for whom that was the biggest concern. because you have in the senate pro-life members like senator casey, senator nelson, all of whom were clearly satisfied that the way the senate did it met our objective of making sure that no public funds can go to abortion. the issue is, what can you use your own money for? in other words, right now today, if you want to go out with your own money and purchase a health care plan, you have that option. and so -- >> sure. and we know that he would argue, well, if you give them a sub...

Work with bart stupak and with the members who had that concern. senator casey and senator nelson, all of whom were clearly satisfied the way the senate did it met our objective at making sure no public funds could go to abortion. the issue is what can you use your own money for? in other words, right now today if you want to go out and purchase a health care plan you have that option. >> and we know that he would argue if you give them a subsidy, you really are subsidizing abortion coverage. the fact of the matter is he is not convinced by that argument. have you lost stupak and the dozen or ...

Will not support and that's the sticky wicket. >> i want to be specific about this. it's funding for abortion directly or something else? >> something else entirely. there is no provision in either the house or senate bill to fund abortion directly. what's in the senate bill is a mechanism by which if you purchase health insurance through federal exchange and select a insurance package that provides abortion you have to pay an extra fee for that coverage. bart stupak and others argue the fee you're paying becomes federal dollars that become a financing mechanism for abortion of the others say ...

Bill passed in the house. it wasn't going to happen until nancy pelosi got bart stupak and those 11 onboard by tightening up that language with regards to abortion. the white house says nothing is going to change as far as government money for abortion. take a listen to kathleen sebelius who was on "fox and friends" this morning. >> the president made it clear federal fund will not be used forward abortion coverage. we are not changing the status quo in the law at all. megyn: congress heads out on recess march 26. president obama said he pants a healthcare bill on his desk before then. a key h...