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>> let's start with that example when you look at these rulgs on abortion. you're saying the searches tell a story. do you know they tell behavior? >> i think it's very clear. not only are shay highest in places where it's hard to get abortion, they rose substantially in 2011 when there was crackdown on legal abortion. we don't know for sure that they lead to bad behavior but you can see that in the places where it's now hard to get an abortion, they are missing pregnancies. there are people who are getting pregnant and not showing up in birth or legal abortn. >> people talk abo a bug or featu...

Stance to try to win a democratic state? >> no, not at all. today i would support laws that would provide for those exceptions. but i'm not for them. in other wds, i support the hyde amendmt. the hyde amendment provides exception for rape and incest and the life of the mother. yes, i support laws that provide those exceptions because if we can get those passe then we need to do that. but -- >> that's not a violation of your pledge? >> no. i try -- i supported th partia birth abortion ban act. does thatan all abortion no. but it moves the country in the right direction. so what i've said in the...

So, didn't you, when you were ru for re-election, do the same thing you've acused romney of, which is moderating your stance to try to win a democratic state? >> no, not at all. today i would support laws that would provide for those exceptions. but i'm not for them. in other wds, i support the hyde amendmt. the hyde amendment provides exception for rape and incest and the life of the mother. yes, i support laws that provide those exceptions because if we can get those passe then we need to do that. but -- >> that's not a violation of your pledge? >> no. i try -- i supported th partia birth ab...

Democratic state? >> no, not at all. today i would support laws that would provide for those exceptions. but i'm not for them. in other wds, i support the hyde amendmt. the hyde amendment provides exception for rape and incest and the life of the mother. yes, i support laws that provide those exceptions because if we can get those passe then we need to do that. but -- >> that's not a violation of your pledge? >> no. i try -- i supported th partia birth abortion ban act. does thatan all abortion no. but it moves the country in the right direction. so what i've said in the past consistent is i'l...