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If he wins this, we'll see more power and strength across the governors than we have seen before. >> yes, the republicans will have more power and strength to carry out their attacks. they will be em bolden. this is not just about wisconsin. how about kasich, schneider in michigan. i think democrats understand that wisconsin is just the beginning. mr. president, there's no doubt smart political observers would be wrong to question your strategy and tactics. time and time again we saw those who did in 2008 get it wrong. democrats know you're team is absolutely the best in the business. what i w...

Establishment candidate. let's use it for shorthand. i'm talking about rubio, about bush, about christie, about kasich. for one of them to win the nomination, if they don't break through and win iowa, if that goes to cruz or trump, like the polls are saying, does one of those candidates to win the nomination have to win new hampshire? >> no, i don't think so. look, i think this whole process is a bit different in terms of timing this year. new hampshire is going to be very important. i think whichever one of those candidates comes in second or third in new hampshire will set the tone for the r...

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But that so-called establishment wing so spread out. bush, kasich, rubio, christie. together they have enough to beat trump, but they're so spread out right now, that not only is trump winning, but cruz is in second place. what will it take to sort that out, for one candidate to emerge as the sort of default non-trump candidate? >> there's two pieces to that. one, people have to start looking seriously at trump in terms of what he stands for, in temperament and inexperience. i thought the question to trump on the triad, where trump had actually no idea what hewitt was talking about, was very t...