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And yes, certainly, i had to dress up in certain cases when i'm investigating organised crime, but i keep doing it, i have my...ways. i'm a very good reporter, in that case. let's talk a little bit, if we may, about mexico's political leadership and president andres manuel lopez obrador, amlo, as many people call him. he came to power pledging to do more to protectjournalists, to protect human rights and to take on organised crime. i just wonder how you would judge him because, in recent months, he's actually been quite critical of some human rights groups for being anti—mexican and being in...

So, i combine them. do you think there is any danger that you could be portrayed, by some, in mexico, as becoming anti—mexican? it's interesting that president obrador criticised the us state department report which asked... well, demanded that mexico do more to protectjournalists and he implied that this was, in some ways, becoming a nationalist battle to protect mexico's honour. you support the us when it demands more protection for human rights in mexico. is there a danger that some might see you as becoming anti—mexican? well, they might, they are entitled to their opinion, but i am no...

The fact that we had powerful evidence from these phone tapes of important people who appeared to be implicated in a plot to detain you and physically assault you, and yet for many, many years, nothing happened. and at the same time, we were seeing journalists being threatened, intimidated and murdered every month, every year, inside mexico. what conclusions were you drawing at that time about the inability of the state to protect journalists like you? well, the fact that the inability of the state to protect anyone from crime, or a journalist, in particular, has a lot to do with the high leve...

But maybe, lydia cacho, things are changing in mexico because the two individuals you have been talking about, the big businessman, mr nacif, and the former governor, mr marin, are both now facing charges for their alleged involvement in you being detained and tortured, as you put it. they vehemently deny those charges and those charges are going to be tested in court. so, maybe, that is one indication that, in the last couple of years, mexico has begun to change and to take these issues seriously. yes, yes, it certainly is. although it took a big effort on the part of article 19 organisation ...

So i am brave, but i'm not stupid, so i won't risk it. and i'm going to wait until it's safe to go back but i won't stop investigating and being a journalist. right. well, i do want to talk in detail about the case you refer to, perhaps the main reason why your life is under threat in mexico. but before we get to that, i just want to take you back to the beginnings of your journalistic career. what made you, as a young woman, gravitate to this work that you have done for so long now, looking into the sort of darkest corners of mexican society and culture? you must have known from the very begi...