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>> yeah. >> we've had this conversation, too. i don't do that to you. >> this is what i'm saying. you're not accusing mueller of being a bad actor or in bad faith? >> no. i think it was clear today, as your network said 100 times, he did not have command of the facts. i don't think he was -- >> what lead prosecutor knows everything of the face they're doing with a team on this size? he didn't want to go outside the confines. it's a performance. he didn't have good material. his performance wasn't good. >> do you know who fusion gps was? >> you're not supposed to ask those questions. >> but eve...

I'll give you my taxes. i don't want a vote from anybody. i'm not asking for them to make me their leader. >> is there a requirement in the united states constitution? >> it's an ethical one. it's not what you're forced to do. it's doing the right thing by the american people. >> we're friends. let's go through this. there's no requirement it has to be. >> this is not about the emoluments litigation. >> it's the same. why are they doing this? >> why is he doing this? >> doing what? >> not releasing his taxes. >> he's in the middle of an ud it. it's not a requirement of the constitution. he doe...

It's not just what aboutism. it's not that he is being hypocritical. it's something more sinister in the way they keep using jews -- first of all, they're lying about accusations they're making. and then they're using those lies to justify their own racism. >> and that racism is undermining the bedrock of our shared foundational civic life. michelle goldberg, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. coming up, elizabeth warren takes on the raytheon lobbyist. and the head of homeland security answers to alexandria ocasio-cortez for the behavior of border agents in a secret facebook group. that's ...

Have a moral compass. >> you hate to engage in the what aboutism. can you imagine if this happened? talk about previous presidents. listen to what fox news was talking about president obama. after he said he was open just receptive to the idea of meeting with somebody like this. let's hear their take after trump did it. >> would you as president meet with the leaders of the country like north korea? >> obama extraordinarily said i'd meet with him. >> i will meet not just with our friends. but with our enemies. >> president obama likes talking to dictators. >> he would meet with the madmen. wit...

Into perspective. clearly your commentary, chuck, is she shouldn't have said that kevin mccarthy took it one step too far. why not just overreact? this is the world we live in. it's all aboutism. >> it's frustrating to me like when you watch the democrats feel hesitant about criticizing one of their own, it's like wait a minute, this is the problem with the republican party, the one you've been criticizing for so long. >> it's rich of the republicans to do this. but that being said, it's a pity that the aoc lost an opportunity. there are all kinds of ways to fairly criticize what i believe is ...