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Further politic sizes our work. what we saw him do is even more harmful. >> the acting head of the cia talking about this. it is especially more dangerous. you look at these 15 plus intelligence agencies. all they do and the norms they put in place. this was an extraordinary move by the president of the united states. >>f absolutely. by the way, i can't believe i'm saying this but thank god dan coats is there. i actually trust him to handle this.ha i have very different policy views from him but i'm glad he's there. the other thinghe i would say aboutth all of this that is amazing to all of me...

This shutdown is one that the democrats own. this would be very easy to resolve. and they don't want to do it. they don't want to do it -- even if you lookk at the media, "the washington post" today, cnn, folks, they have trump gone in three months. they believe that in three months, they will have fractured trump's base,, i.e., you. >> jason: so what are the ramifications of this political showdown? joiningg us now is rnc chairwomn ronna mcdaniel and fox news political analyst gianno caldwell. thank you both foror joining us here. ronna, i want to start with you because the messaging from the...

Designed to lure you in to compromising the trump campaign in some way? >> ie will tell you what, tucke, for two years i didn't know what it was. i gave the information to the house intelligence committee, the senate intelligence committee, and the mueller investigators when i sat with them two weeks ago or three weeks ago. they didn't seemt interested. i didn't know what to think of it, i scratched my head. the intermediary, an old friend of i mine, we talked about it or dinner dozens of times. we can figure out what it was. then the news came out aboutth best buy -- the spy latching one trum...

But like vicki said, these photos can be subject to freedom of information request. >> we just had some pictures and his face covered in red, the sniper shot on his forehead. obviously they didn't pull the trigger. but as an american do you think we actually need to see more of those photos to understand the enemy we're facing? >> we didn't see osama bin laden's dead body for a reason. we don't want to make this issue worse than it is. think we have to understand, how do we stop terroris and keep young americans -- this is not the way to be elm want to love our society. i always believe in a t...

Truck him and he went down and he was acting in self-defense. >> the sanford police department is trying to make sure they did everything right. i think that's why you saw them pass it on to the state's attorneys general and now another state's attorney and sanford has a history of racism. >> zimmerman supporters insist there's a lot of evidence out there that the public is not aware aboutth and they insist that the public has not known about zimmerman. they're trying to figure in gaps and paint a different portrait of him. alex? >> nbc's ron allen, thank you very much. coming up in 15 minut...