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Leaving the network, hears coming to cnn plus. i think it's part of a string of departures of reporters or journalists who were tied to a network where many of the voices are pr voices for the president or any number of conspiracies. what's your sense of what's happening with fox news and the direction that it's headed? >> they're purging anyone who actually acts like a journalist and tries to have fact-based arguments. it's a parallel of what's been going on in the republican party in terms of the hunting for heretics, the kicking out of the center and the elevation only of ideological absolu...

University who resigned claiming the school sacrificed ideas for ideology peter, author of "how to have impossible conversations." joins us right now from portland. peter, good morning to you. >> good morning. steve: so, regarding this research, what do you think is the headline from it? >> i think the take away is that when people go to the universities, it's not the same university it was even five or ten years ago. these are indoctrination camps and indoctrination camps into a very specific set of beliefs. the longer you are there. the more certain you become in your moral attitudes. steve:...

You have the way a european would remember it as chapter of europe and there's a way that the muslim remembers it as a form of premodern colonial attack and occupation. >> jerusalem is a site that believers have been fighting over for years whether they are muslim or christian. they believe holding that land is important to their faith. >> if you are a believer, you believe absolutely that your faith is the truth. so, that's why, in the case of jerusalem as holy city, people are absolutists, it's the only city on earth that exists on skm heaven and earth and so it exists twice, and that gives ...

Individual donors on both sides. >> lahnee has done a good job here, chris, of getting the term "both sides" in here three times. i have to give him credit. if anybody was playing at home, cross that off your bingo card. lahnee got in "both sides" three times. one side thinks this is crazy. one side sayses they th not how it's supposed to work. one side says we should change these rules. >> that's right. >> i'm glad to be on that side. >> we should also note to lahnee's point in terms of how the system works, the current system was created by a lawsuit by mitch mcconnell. and he said it's one ...

A time arguing them out of a theological position. this has become a matter of theology for evangelicals. as such, all the political arguments, in fact, facts themselves, do not apply. evangel caps are absolutists. you mentioned my book, the title denotes a sense that there is paradox in this world and people who are certainty addicts tend to do bad things i've never heard of anybody blowing up an abortion clinic or a white police officer shooting a black man or someone bombing a mosque after they shout "but i could be wrong." that's the problem with evangelicals today, they never think about ...