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This san oil facility that's exchanged hands a couple of times. the line keeps on moving, but there was concern and there is still concern amongst the rebels near benghazi that nato would not be as effective against the forces. now that u.s. air strikes have pulled back. you won't see the ac-130 and a-10s so effective against gadhafi's forces. today nato came out and hit a -- they have to move now to the rebels that they can actually pick up where the u.s. air force has left off. today, also, out of the capital -- they said there were pictures actually of moammar gadhafi who we haven't seen in...

They're going to get weaker. however this seesaw battle goes in the next few days, the impact of training, arms that are coming in, greater familiarity, it's going to tilt the balance in favor of the opposition. so from gadhafi's perspective, i think that time is not on his side and perhaps they understand this, but if they don't, then i hope that we'll do everything we can to encourage them to that effect. >> you say time is not on their side, on this evening, these two instruments of war are being taken off the table. the a-10, the tank killer can take gadhafi's troops off the ground. it's a...

Ac-130 and 810 war hogs will not be used in a couple of days. >> shepard: we have been hearing that qaddafi's son was in the united states. what do we know about that visit. >> we know a little more tonight. we know that the state department representative met him at the airport and was with him through the entire visit. that it was organized through pentagon officials through the air force that he went to the national defense university as well as to the air force academy. he met with the dean's of faculty there. and this was an itinerary, again, planned by the air force. he was supposed to b...

That the rebels can win without a much more serious nato involvement and that will mean an american involvement? we have been pointing out, as you have, on all of our broadcasts, that nato is largely an american investment. it is american manpower, and it is american brain power and leadership, even under the cover of nato leadership. >> that's right. even under this nato switchover, look at the numbers. it is all u.s. midair refueling, it is all u.s. electronic jamming. the tomahawk missile launches aren't even close. i think the uk has seven launches, but all of that hardware and on and on a...

I think there's some justified criticism against the bush administration -- used the example of iraq. it took us eight-plus years to get out of there. we're still not out of there but hopefully soon. libya could end up being much the same. you go in there, even after all this massive firepower and put boots on the ground, it could take a long time because we don't know if this is going to morph into a counterinsurgency, which is a real possibility given the size of his army and the tribal differences. not all that different from the situation we've seen elsewhere. >> as the rebels continue to ...