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Exist. i mean, there's a sense sometimes that people think, well, nothing matters. but you look at, you know, aca repeal did not happen because people mobilized against it, politically unpopular, child separation is an explicit policy stopped. and they lost 37, 35, 34 something like that seats because the president's unpopular. as richard blumenthal said he didn't fire sessions three days ago because he knew it was politically unpopular. >> he is aware, sees the shadows on the wall at least that their political storms ahead, there are political problems ahead and that his actions have several ...

But there is a relationship between the two. >> sure. >> which is politics do still exist. i mean, there's a sense sometimes that people think, well, nothing matters. but you look at, you know, aca repeal did not happen because people mobilized against it, politically unpopular, child separation is an explicit policy stopped. and they lost 37, 35, 34 something like that seats because the president's unpopular. as richard blumenthal said he didn't fire sessions three days ago because he knew it was politically unpopular. >> he is aware, sees the shadows on the wall at least that their political...

Aca repeal and the harm that they felt was going to happen was very tangible, medicaid cuts, things like that. corporate tax cuts feel more abstract to people. why are you so intent on this bill what harm do you fear it will do? >> chris, thanks for having me on. the most basic harm it would do is it would require immediate huge cuts to social spending, including medicare disability. $400 billion over 10 years. and if those cuts go into effect as they will under the current law, i might november have access to the life-saving equipment and the drugs that could help buy me another year or two y...

Capitol. he joins me now. he works on economic and racial injustice at the center for popular democracy. let me start with this. we saw people mobilizing against aca repeal and the harm that they felt was going to happen was very tangible, medicaid cuts, things like that. corporate tax cuts feel more abstract to people. why are you so intent on this bill what harm do you fear it will do? >> chris, thanks for having me on. the most basic harm it would do is it would require immediate huge cuts to social spending, including medicare disability. $400 billion over 10 years. and if those cuts go in...

Health care, the kushner e-mails and in just the last few hours, the travel restrictions? >> i think that's precisely what it is. this is another deflection. the president knows he is a bull in a china shop. he is using this opportunity to stoke racial tensions even further than they are. obviously it came on the heels of his friday night speech. for a candidate who stands to lose the alabama special elections this coming tuesday to the incumbent senator who was appointed recently. and i think it's reflect offensive of the fact that the president understands fundamentally with john mccain comi...