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My humble opinion, if they are asking for help, we should provide it in spades. >> michael, you know better than anyone, the f acaa and similar organizations look for lessons from situations like this. >> right. >> what lessons should we be learning right now? >> just to go back to what michael said, quite frankly we're putting the best resources in the world at a point in the investigation where we have very little hope of seeing any debris. let's go back to one lesson. remember when you talked about telemetry in the acars system. malaysia air decided not to buy the app. >> about $10 a flight...

Turn off the transponder and the acars system. so i think it might advance it a little bit but you can't tell yet. >> one thing that becomes clear here, clearly this is intelligence, an evolving intelligence operation and they are working with imperfect data and they are adjusting as we go. and to explain to our viewer who is have to be frustrated with the constant false alarms. >> and they've got the 30-day deadline with the pingers expiring if they haven't already. they feel pressure to get one last search while the pingers are going. if they find some wreckage, they are going to drop a devi...

Cockpit. you just turn the button, it's off. the acars system is a little bit more complicated to turn that off. i don't know if you can do it from strictly sitting in the cockpit or if you have to leave the cockpit and go to the underbelly. how do you turn off the acars system? >> the only reason you'd be pulling a circuit breaker in the cockpit. you could turn off part of acars system. >> that would turn it off. >> the only reason you'd be pulling a circuit breaker in the cockpit by manual operations is to prevent, say, a fire from continuing. it's really to prevent a bus, an electric bus fr...

Ended up in this area? is that feasible? >> of course he could have disabled various systems. but to completely shut off the acars, he would have had to go back into the e and e, the electronics and engineering compartment that's eight feet behind the cockpit and down below the galley. and basically vacate the cockpit. the evidence is such that the acars system was being pinged by the satellite. so he would have had to disable that, too. it just seems so implausible to me. >> you must be talking to pilots all the time about this. i'm talking to random people in the street about this. everyone'...

Turn much of with that evidence. >> so some -- presumably investigators have been looking into captain shah's background for weeks and weeks. no suicide note has come to line. no family strife. nothing from his flight simulator so far. so in your mintd, do you agree? do investigators know more than they are saying or are they in the wrong place? >> i think there is no -- >> oh, i'm sorry. >> there is no evidence that is shown that this captain was involved in anything nefarious, as you say. what we do believe is that something occurred in the cockpit that caused the transponder and the acars s...