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Which may indicate some type of catastrophic failure, we don't know it would have been intentionally turned off. there would be no reason to do that. that's surprising. when we have cell phones where hundreds of millions of people can be tracked in the another, where we need to figure out where somebody was, we can do that, we can't follow a 777 around the world is unimaginable to me. the pain and agony these families are facing should have been avoided. >> keith, to his point, this is something that i've come back to. if i'm up to no good, acting with sinister motivation aboard that flight, w...

Almost before the plane took off by malaysia air's decision, not to buy an app for their acars system. the aircraft was sold by boeing to malaysia air with a basic avionics suite that don't provide the upgrade that would have provided the same kind of information air france provided that would allow the investigators to within a week to at least know the area of the debris field they're looking for. the thought that a jumbo jet -- that would allowed this stream of information. so all those pings that we heard, we would have had a load of information, even if acars had gone down that would help...

My humble opinion, if they are asking for help, we should provide it in spades. >> michael, you know better than anyone, the f acaa and similar organizations look for lessons from situations like this. >> right. >> what lessons should we be learning right now? >> just to go back to what michael said, quite frankly we're putting the best resources in the world at a point in the investigation where we have very little hope of seeing any debris. let's go back to one lesson. remember when you talked about telemetry in the acars system. malaysia air decided not to buy the app. >> about $10 a flight...

All that was working, so what you have a picture of here is a plane which is flying as it was designed to fly perfectly, but apparently no human intention. so we have to work our way back from that to what might not have been working to cause the things that give us pause, the lack of a call from the plane, the ending of the acars signal and the transponder. where is the division between those things? >> i've got to get the other panelists in here. i want to get jeff wise's reaction. you write about this, you've been studying this. you sort of disagreed with the data. but what do you make with...

Providing power to the whole airplane. all that was working, so what you have a picture of here is a plane which is flying as it was designed to fly perfectly, but apparently no human intention. so we have to work our way back from that to what might not have been working to cause the things that give us pause, the lack of a call from the plane, the ending of the acars signal and the transponder. where is the division between those things? >> i've got to get the other panelists in here. i want to get jeff wise's reaction. you write about this, you've been studying this. you sort of disagreed w...