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And tone of the conversations going on, and i don't mean on the dark web, just in the corners of these message boards and chat rooms, four chan, eight chan, telegram where small groups get together they're gathering a tine y number of people across the country so the numbers become significant and their extolling each other to violence and you have a mix of accelerationists who want to topple the government and take down on the crazier end on then on the political end, when we lose an election, we didn't lose it. it was stolen and we must act. >> and now we have a brutal case of what this thre...

Thank you. when you get some perspective from a former senior official of the homeland security who -- both infrastructure and cybersecurity. chris, you heard the mayor of southern pines -- she believes this was a terrorist act. i, mean how vulnerable are these? >> well, i think at this point, the investigation, as it plays out, it's too early to say definitively whether it's domestic terrorism or something along those lines. but as he recounted over the last several years, there have been cases of, you know, extremists, accelerationists, that have gone after the grid, or planned to. so there'...

>> the idea is to identify the threat overseas before it comes to new york city. how? 15 nypd posts across the globe. assistant commissioner based in a secret location in manhattan says there's been more plots than ever. >> there has been 15 plots in the last 25 years against the city -- >> a rising number, originating at home. >> other actors like violent extremists, white supremacists, neo-nazi, what we call accelerationists, and anti-government extremism. >> ground zero is just a half mile from his office, and names on the wall, people he knew. >> what is the thing that keeps you up at nigh...