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If you are a friend of yours is at youtube. the security is bad and this woman is able to penetrate. how do we stop that woman from using the gun you? are pro-gun but don't want your friend stop. >> of course. you stop confusing access control with security. a ticket to a football game is an access control device, but it's not security. if there is not a counter-measure to back that up -- in other words a trained good guy with a gun to stop the sick people in society, you won't stop these attacks. they will get the weapons whether it's through the black markets or steal them. >> wow! you guys ...

Difficult to smuggle bombs or weapons into sochi, or am i oversimplifying? >> well, you're not oversimplifying, but no, it's not that difficult, because these things can be taken as in pieces. they don't have to be taken in entire parts. and remember, a lot of these ingredients are commercially available. if you're looking to put together a bomb, their ingredients are commercially available. you can smuggle it in in pieces. it's going to be exceedingly difficult if this woman, this black widow, is in the city of sochi, to find her at this point. >> how vulnerable are some of these olympic venu...

On other operations. >> we have been toll about the 30-thousand troop ring around the sochi area, but we were raising with mike baker, that assumes the bad guys aren't already in sochi. right? >> neil, you have to clean, sweep and post. you have to clean the area out completely of people, sweep it for everything you want out, and then post it with agents. you can't do that in an entire stich this place was completely unprepared and i win people would stop confusing access, control, with security. they're going to do a good job at access control but a ticket is an access control device. not a s...

Is an access control device. it's not a security device. if there's no human deterrence behind that if you don't have a particular and walked in and nobody stopped you, all of the money spent on these ticket screeners and codes don't mean anything. i'm not saying that their hearts into it to create a secure olympics, of course there are. there is expensive access control and security. security requires good intelligence gathering pre-olympics, good investigative techniques, solid behavioral analytics and knowing what to look for. you can spend all the money you want on fencing, it won't matter...