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The assurance we'll be able to back them and be behind the american people in doing what we think is right for them. >> that sounds good. but access doesn't necessarily mean it's affordable. when you look at what aarp has projected, premiums could cost as 27,500 a year. a lot of people that's their livelihood in a year. >> you have to remember when the affordable care act was first output there, we were told we were going to save $2,300, 2rks $500 a year. it is going to go back and forth and we will have to find a solution that actually works. we could talk about all these could bes or maybes ...

To have real fare he has access to it. when he's spouting it, it's hard to know whether he believes it. >> wait a second. access doesn't mean he gets it. he reads the "new york times" and maggie and glen writes something about it. doesn't read the "new york times" when it's about korea or his own healthcare bill he doesn't understand, can't talk about. he reads the "new york times" selectively about the one thing he cares about in the world. you go back to the 1980s, he was in cosmopolitan manhattan but still acting like the archie bunker bigot when it came to race issues throughout the '80s. ...

Access doesn't mean he gets it. he reads the "new york times" and maggie and glen writes something about it. doesn't read the "new york times" when it's about korea or his own healthcare bill he doesn't understand, can't talk about. he reads the "new york times" selectively about the one thing he cares about in the world. you go back to the 1980s, he was in cosmopolitan manhattan but still acting like the archie bunker bigot when it came to race issues throughout the '80s. he always had that foxiness about him while still supporting the clintons and other things. >> here's the difference, the ...

Clarification there. there will be a briefing today. there was some question about it. >> i think there will, too. >> so in the meantime, secretary price talked to matt and savannah on the "today" show and made the argument that we've heard over the last few days, access versus coverage, trying to downplay this 24 million number that's made headlines across the country. can that work? >> not if you go below a small smidgen of the surface. if access doesn't come with coverage, how can you afford it? if you look at the elderly people, they will see that their financial help in purchasing health ...

Sheer cost and accessibility will draw people in. but there's a lot of skepticism around that, particularly for younger, healthy people, which have been actually a hard group to get into the obamacare system even with the mandate. so without that pressure on how will you compel those people to buy a plan, that is a huge unanswered question. and without answering that question, lot of the other factors ryan is talking about are much less certain. >> access doesn't mean affordable. that's the other thing. people might drop off because they can't afford what they're going to have to pay under thi...