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Ladder of success to the extent that they don't need those programs anymore. that's what i'm talking about. now, people will always try to reinterpret that to say carson wants to get rid of that, he wants to get rid of, that he wants to leave all these people in a terrible situation. that's propaganda. >> so how do you -- how do you implement this? >> the way you do it is we make health savings accounts available to people from the day that they are born to the day that they die at which time they can pass it on to their family. we pay for it with the same traditional dollars that we pay for h...

Ladder of success to the extent that they don't need those programs anymore. that's what i'm talking about. now, people will always try to reinterpret that to say carson wants to get rid of that, he wants to get rid of, that he wants to leave all these people in a terrible situation. that's propaganda. >> so how do you -- how do you implement this? >> the way you do it is we make health savings accounts available to people from the day that they are born to the day that they die at which time they can pass it on to their family. we pay for it with the same traditional dollars that we pay for h...

Politicians from this, from the fray, and bring in people who actually know how to solve problems, we could have gotten this done quite effectively, and you know, we spent twice as month per capita as the next closest country, and yet, look at the access problems we have. you know, we haven't even addressed the fact that we have insurance companies as a major pillar, and they make money by denying people care. these are things that need to be fixed. we're going to talk about possible solutions with our all-star doctors panel after this. [ male announcer ] this is kevin.

We spend twice as much per capita on health care also the next closest nation and we have horrible access problems. terrible inefficiency. these things can be overcome. they can absolutely be overcome if we stop playing politics and decide that we want to fix it, and we, the american people, are going to be the ones who have to do this. you have to know who your representative is. you have to know how they vatted -- not how they said the voted but how they actually voted. you need to get together with friends and neighbors and talk to everybody. we need to bring them back into the process. mor...

Together to iron those out. >> joining me mow from capitol hill is congressman marsha blackburn. thank you so much for joining me. i appreciate it. >> absolutely. thank you. >> i want to pick up where you just heard debbie wasserman-schultz leaving off. it's the law now. why not work with democrats to try to improve it? why not put some tweaks on the table that might make it stronger? why continue to try to tear it down? >> what we're continuing to do is work with our constituents as they come into us with story after story after story of increased insurance rates, of failures with the healthc...