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Proud of our country but we like our leaders in almost without exception, almost without exception we've had leaders who at least some essence of humility about them, gratitude that they're in the position, there's none of this going on now and the outright lies being told -- and by the way i know you noticed that some in the press are beginning to call a lie a lie when it happens. >> even in a headline now sometimes. >> and the idea that there's such thing as alternate facts when that's not true and nearly everybody knows it isn't true. some may not want to accept it but two and two equals fo...

Two and two equals five is not an alternate fact. but we are being asked on a daily basis to believe that. >> dan rather host of access tv's "the big interview" putting it in a twilight zone moment and the weirdness of it, i would not have described it that by a before talking to you buthat's exactly right. thank for beg he. >> thank you, always good to be with you. >> lots more to get to on this very, very busy news night. please do stay with us. i don't want to live with the uncertainties of hep c. or wonder whether i should seek treatment. i am ready. because today there's harvoni. a revolu...

>> even in a headline now sometimes. >> and the idea that there's such thing as alternate facts when that's not true and nearly everybody knows it isn't true. some may not want to accep it but two and two equals four. two and two equals five is not an alternate fact. but we are being asked on a daily basis to believe that. >> dan rather host of access tv's "the big interview" putting it in a twilight zone moment and the weirdness of it, i would not have described it that by a before talking to you but that's exactly right. thank you for being here. >> thank you, always good to be with you. >> ...

Visit pge.com/safety together, we're building a better california. donald trump is his top aides insisting their transition team is operating smoothly. i want to talk about this now with dan rather, the host of access tv's "the big interview". it's been a week since voters elected donald trump as the next president. what do you make of his transition, the transition to trump's america? >> not much. that is i don't make much of the story that he doesn't have government experience so no one expects him or i didn't expect him to get quick out of the gate. and i think the story of possible trans...

The same on the print side but it's challenging trump's claim. trump went against the "times" in another tweet. he said that he believes the paper apologized for its coverage last week and that he believes they'll make the same mistakes in the future. we'll get into that now. the panel is back with me, dodai stewart of fusion, dan rather of access tv, so let me ask all of you to react to this and talk about how donald trump is using twitter to his benefit. molly, he says in a m"60 minute" interview, that he'll be restrained with twitter but will continue to use twitter and facebook. do you bel...