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Accommodating to russia and not with china. whether you look at peacekeeping, the u.n., you know, a whole variety of things, global warning, they have been getting more and more responsible over time. russia has been less and less responsible and more of a poilepoil -- spoiler, and in a sense, it's explained for the last 25 years. china has grown in wealth, power and status in this western order. they want to be more important, but they don't want to reckon. for russia, as putin has often said, it has been a disaster, he described the collapse of the soviet union as the greatest geopolitical o...

Was hacked. >> the strategic release of the material. >> e-mails and especially the clinton e-mails. i don't know how much effect it had or not. but trump has taking a surprising number of republicans with him into an accommodating of putin position. we'll see how long it lasts and we'll see how long it lasts for trump incidentally. i have been a little shocked, with a few exceptions, how many trump supporters, advocates, people who wish trump well, decided to go down the road with them and not picking a fight with putin as they see it. >> that's true. to be fair, you have mccain and graham tr...

Man. i'm just proud to be a catholic during these days. i'm glad he's upsetting some people on the right and on the left. >> absolutely. >> oh, yeah. because people get into their little staid comfort zone, it's not good. he shook up the bureaucracy in rome, it needed to be done. he's made a lot of changes in terms of process and in terms of style and welcoming and accommodating. no, there haven't been any dramatic doctrinal substantive changes. i'm not looking for them. i am saying that he is a man who will maintain his steadiness on principle, including on very important moral cultural issue...

There are a lot of young people committed to their faith. >> what do you say to her krilt particulars who say, it's fine to hold whatever beliefs you want. this is a country where we tolerate religious believe, whatever your faith or nonfaith is, that's tolerated but when she in their estimation tries to push it on to other people, she can't do it. >> she's not pushing. she's asking for an accommodation. she's saying, please, don't make me violate my beliefs. we have a long history of accommodating. we don't say you can't serve, we won't force you to take up a gun to take another life. she's a...

Donald trump phenomenon? >> i think it's a net positive for everybody, and i also think it's an indicator that there's a lot of folks out there that are sick and tired of washington. i think donald trump's tapped into that. >> that's reince priebus over the weekend. back with us is former governor and candidate for president, george pataki. >> you can tap into something, it might not be good for the republican party. do you think trump is good or bad for the party? >> i think the anti-washington sentiment is very real. cuts across party lines, and republicans should run on that basis. i think ...