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Missouri senate, roy blunt, vice chair of the -- >> hi, bill, good to be with you. bill: have not gotten your reactions just yet. what did you think of the president's message on the face of it? >> well, you know, it's like the ore dozen times -- the other dozen times he's pivoted back to jobs. there's nothing new in any of these messages, there's nothing that is more accomplishable than the things the president's already failed to get done. and i think what really matters now is what he says today and tomorrow and the next day, does he stay on jobs, or does he go right back to policies that d...

Tax plan that could be scored and demonstrate this. the governor has laid out a tax plan of the tax program. the goals that are accomplishable. the details that would be accomplished are things that would be worked out. >> now check out the director's resume. before he worked for romney, he was a top policy aide to paul ryan. and he worked as a special assistant in the white house of george bush. that's a trifecta, wes. >> the challenge is we've got issues on this. not just on the policy perspective, but also on the politics perspective. and here's what i mean, rev. on the policy, i would love...