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There used to be jobs for people with out of high school education. there are no more. in this new 21st century, high school education is mandatory. and even education beyond that point. we have to prepare our children for the challenges of the 21st century. and education is one of the primary ways that we do that. >> how do you engage the teachers, public school teachers and get around past tensions that other communities have had between teachers unions and associations who feel somewhat threatened by parent groups, by accountability issues, by some of the federal programs. >> well, actually...

Is in there. >> that is what it is. the va hasn't called for eric shinseki to step down or signed on to the accountability issues. the american legion has jumped on this. this is indifference. the va was saying the veterans were waiting 24 and in reality 115 days. four months for a basic appointment. 1700 veterans, real people, were deleted from the list and their appointment never happened. this investigation started with one in phoenix and now they are investigating 42 facilities across the united states about falsifying the reports. >> fire eric shinseki but what comes after him?

Change some of those accountability issues? >> it's possible. i mean, the last few weeks have been stories about the cia giving up drones and it all moving to military and then there's been some cheering for that. they're not exactly transparent. sometimes, we have a harder time finding out about the military drone strikes, so just because they're in the military, doesn't mean there's going to be a government spokesman at the podium every day talking about operations. it's going to be probably country specific. i believe that it will be less likely that cia gives up drone strikes in pakistan f...

Some of those accountability issues? >> it's possible. i mean, the last few weeks have been stories about the cia giving up drones and it all moving to military and then there's been some cheering for that. they're not exactly transparent. sometimes, we have a harder time finding out about the military drone strikes, so just because they're in the military, doesn't mean there's going to be a government spokesman at the podium every day talking about operations. it's going to be probably country specific. i believe that it will be less likely that cia gives up drone strikes in pakistan for some...

Thr real questions about the cia's performance during the arab spring and whether they were really able to provide intelligence to the white house. and the question was, was it so focused -- did it lift so far in one direction that it had not been, would not been able to do the sort of traditional spying. >> you write in a big picture sense, that the changes have lowered the bar for waging war. these weapons systems are unbound by the views of accountability during wartime. if john brennan is successful and the president is successful and some of these ways of waging war move back, would that ...