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The ntsb is monitoring and investigation on what could have caused the failure and pilot to have to abort the takeoff. of course when this day and age of all of us carrying our smartphones, one passenger caught fear and frustration most accurately. >> i'm off the plane right now. we are evacuating the plane. oh, my god. oh, my god. the plane is on fire. oh, my god. >> getting out of the way was certainly right thing to do, given fire and smoke. passengers, many boarding another flight arriving at their destination, fort lauderdale, happily at 2:00 a.m. last night. others were so shaken by inci...

And they reported that white house aides debated this line about whether -- how you can keep your insurance if you like it. and they said, wait a minute, we've got to nuance this at the least. and it's the political aides that insisted on a lack of nuance and maintained this stark line. to me, this is the smoking gun this was a deliberate deception. >> so back to him as a speech writer in a similar situation and what you're talking about says this. if the fact checkers told us it was inaccurate, we would either kill it or find another way to make the point accurately. was this all part of the ...

Whole, to try to get this thing to fail. >> that's the point. should be also discussed here and this is something even "morning joe", republican, joe scarborough points out, republicans had their fair share idea of time to come up ways to fix the problem. if you point outlook at this glitch or that glitch, any criticism from the republican party, it seems to lack the krenlt of maybe equal to the website because people see it as politics as usual. >> that's the difficulty, any kind you have a large i.t. rollout, it's tricky and when it's like so large it's unprecedented and federal exchange is ...

Asking that question. i mean, i've done a million interviews with people on camera, and i think they get intimidated, they get sometimes confused. what about that answer to his question, do you think you wouldn't be here tonight, fred? >> well, you know, i mean, i think legally, you know, he had to say that. but he also really what he should have done from the human perspective is he should have said i deeply, deeply regret what happened. but here's the part of the problem. because he's doing this now, that could undermine whether he was acting reasonably in connection with the self-defense ar...

Negative ad campaign like this for five months? do you think the voters -- are you at all concerned that voters might start tuning out the politics of it as white noise? >> chuck, i think that like in any presidential campaign, there is going to be a balance of ensuring that we're talking about the president's record, we're proud of that record, we've made significant progress in this country under president obama, from health care reform to wall street reform, to giving the middle class a tax cut and recovering from an economic crisis, the greatest economic crisis in a generation, and stoppin...