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Locale teaitie localities. >> has it not worked in your opinion in the testing and the student's performance? >> we are not doing any better than we were, and in some cases people think we are doing worse than many years ago. i am not against testing per se. when i was a kid we had no department of education but we still took a national test and took the california achievement test or iowa standard test so we could compare ourselves to other states and what happens is every state has a test and the federal government requires a test and before you know it kids are taki taking 10 or 12 tests a ...

Column out this week about the achievement test and whether forget a lot or a little, are we effective? are we actually efficient, regardless of what the dollars are? >> well, i didn't actually see the article, but the concept that you are putting forth, yeah it is easy for me to come on and say we got to spend less, of course. but the question what and how are we going to do it? i would like to see us do that in a bipartisan way. i have worked with some of the democrats on the other side of the aisle and we got to actually cut some things around here. we can't keep spending like we have been ...